Turkey and Ukraine are working on “more than 30 joint projects” for production of military equipment, Ukraine’s Ambassador to Turkey Andrii Sybiha says in a lengthy written said interview with Defensehere.com, a Turkish defense industry news site. Rather than trading military goods across the Black Sea, the countries are focusing on “joint research, joint-ventures and establishing joint production,” he says. This decades, he predicts, will see Ukrainian Antonov planes built in Turkey and Turkish drones produced in Ukraine. Turning to space, he said both countries are working for joint development of “satellite technologies, space launch systems and infrastructure.”